Curse

Kelfer · Jul 10, 2010, 10:26 AM // 10:26

A'net really did it this time!

This is so ridiculously difficult that it's daft....

If they're gonna make something this tricky they might at least let us have a party of 8 w. lvl 20 hench, otherwise this is just a joke!

1. Groups that appear w. 3 bosses in them (wth!).
2. Completely underpowered NPC's as help (these get wiped in about .01 secs).
3. Groups of ca 10 eles w. Unsteady, MS, Savannah and seemlingy 0.5 sec recharge on these skills.
4. Monster skills to which we have absolutely no equivalent (i.e. Spectral agony). And no, Pain Inverter is not the answer on groups of foes using this :/.

Addiontally PUGing on things like this is often more of a pain than H/H tbh.
If this is an effort from A'net to get us to do more stuff in groups, the point has been missed somewhere.

Well, if that's a taste of GW2, or what's to come, count me out!

Rant over and out

AmbientMelody · Jul 10, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16

It's basically Thunderhead Keep vol.2.

Back to early Prophecies I've failed this mission 30 times with people

Mostly because everybody played on his own, rather than like a team ...

Now you have heroes and OPed PvE skills, as well as PvX builds.

After 5 years, there is no excuse for failing this mission except for lag/personal inadequacy to play GW.

hallucinogenic · Jul 10, 2010, 11:22 AM // 11:22

I've only done this once, H/H with a guildy.

And I'm not going to lie, I found it fun more than anything.

It wasn't difficult, it was just long... And it wasn't long in the boring sense.

Overall, it was a very enjoyable quest and I can't wait to do it on the rest of my characters!

The quest doesn't hold a 'Masters' tag for no reason, team up with a guildy or friend and you'll be fine! Go nuts, get yourself a nice new weapon!

Niz

*Darcy* · Jul 10, 2010, 11:25 AM // 11:25

I agree with hallucinogenic. This was a great time. You are resurrected if you die, so where is the stress. Just bring lots of Honeycombs for group dp removal.

Warbog The Slayer · Jul 10, 2010, 11:26 AM // 11:26

did it 3 times with 3 chars ....with real ppl,was very easy and fun ,i dunno why ppl still QQ about how hard is this quest...i am just saying

Kook~NBK~ · Jul 10, 2010, 11:44 AM // 11:44

I tried it once with H/H and made it through all the White Mantle before getting ripped by the Mursaat.

I did it with a PUG, one that was co-ordinated and worked out our builds and strategy before starting and we whupped the snot out of everything they threw at us. A little defense goes a long way.

Gill Halendt · Jul 10, 2010, 12:01 PM // 12:01

The problem with this mission is that it's not really "challenging", it's just the frustrating type of challenge that ANet seems to love so much.

Encounters are not well thought out, you're just flooded with spawns from the front gate. Enemies are not any smarter either, they are just (ridicolously) numerous and often hard-hitting if you're not prepared enough.

A textbook example of quantity over quality, you don't really need any strategy to clear the mission, you just have to hit them harder as you can't overcome them in number.

The Riven · Jul 10, 2010, 12:02 PM // 12:02

MoP nuker, SoS, UA hero monk, 100b Warrior, Imbagon, Splinter Barrage Ranger in my team. Great laugh, it's just a pity i cant redo it all again in HM.
It's not hard at all. Intense? Yes. Very much so, a great addition to GW.

I just find it hard to understand why some people insist on complaining about possibly the best free addition to the game ever.

Kelfer · Jul 10, 2010, 12:16 PM // 12:16

I'm not complaining about the quest itself.

What I find bafflig is that they put this in an area where a max crew is 6. You're bound to get raped w. a 6 team at one point or another w. sooooo many foes. (Specially where the hench r lvl 10, gotta laugh yer sox off)

I don't really think I'm being unrealistic either. I've done lots of DoA, UW etc.

Gonna see if a guildy or ally can help....

Alicendre · Jul 10, 2010, 12:30 PM // 12:30

I've had no real difficulties with a PuG consisting of a Mo, a resto Rt, a Panic Me, a D with SY! and me as a SF E. Biggest problem was the lag, but it's apparently fixed, and we didn't wipe.

People are still doing the quest so you shouldn't have a problem finding a decent team.

VAge Japie · Jul 10, 2010, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I found it quite easy with 2 monks, 1 MM, 1 SoS rit and 2 SH eles. I had expected more from the Masters ''tag''.

Xsiriss · Jul 10, 2010, 12:39 PM // 12:39

It's only hard because we're given literally no ai to work with (cough 6 heroes please) and most pugs suck. Like seriously suck. 'Hai I'm infuse',' Why are you spamming Sf then?'.

majoho · Jul 10, 2010, 12:40 PM // 12:40

I've tried 3-4 times now with different setups and I have no problems whatsoever until the large group with mursaat comes, then I start wiping fast again and again.

Do you guys use consumables because I have a hard time seeing how it's doable without.

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Oh well somehow I managed to get it done mind you with 60% the entire last part and two crappy level 10 henchmen

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmbientMelody

personal inadequacy to play GW.

Arrogant much?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vader

Bring Panic. Game over.

Not that simple.

rkubik · Jul 10, 2010, 12:45 PM // 12:45

I thought it was consistent with other quests marked with the Masters difficulty with the exception of the amount of mobs. It is for sure one you will need to do with a PUG or Guild. I tried once with H/H and go to the last boss and was just overwhelmed as essentially your party becomes 4 as the henchmen are terrible.

Tried it with a PUG and we passed pretty easily. As was said earlier I think it might be one of the best free updates the games has seen and I was very happy with it. I also like the fact that once you are done you have access to the crafters and unique weapons rather than having to go through it again and you still have access to the bounties. I really don't see what the complaints are about.

Safer Saviour · Jul 10, 2010, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I've done it twice. The first time I was using my Necro (SS) and was with two very good Monks, a couple of Warriors and an SoS Ranger. The second time I used my Rit (SoS) and was with a Warrior, MM, Nuker, Splinter Barrage Ranger and a Monk. My Rit died once towards the end, but aside from that it was pretty easy, but definitely fun.

I'm looking forward to whatever comes next ^.^

Snow Bunny · Jul 10, 2010, 01:05 PM // 13:05

This is one of the most fun times I've ever had in Guild Wars. The difficulty is just right, it feels epic, and it's overall a lot of fun.

Don't whine about it. It's meant to be difficult..

edit - my team was SS necro/SoS Rit/AotL nec/Defy warrior/Panic Mes/ME ON MONK.

The key is that everyone has to actually be useful.

Dawn Angelheart · Jul 10, 2010, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

The problem with this mission is that it's not really "challenging", it's just the frustrating type of challenge that ANet seems to love so much.

Encounters are not well thought out, you're just flooded with spawns from the front gate. Enemies are not any smarter either, they are just (ridicolously) numerous and often hard-hitting if you're not prepared enough.

A textbook example of quantity over quality, you don't really need any strategy to clear the mission, you just have to hit them harder as you can't overcome them in number.

What's quality? interrupts? Degen? knocklocks? I'm pretty sure that'd send everyone QQ'ing. Theres no such thing as quaility in pve.

aspi · Jul 10, 2010, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Anyone did it on their Sin yet? I got a feeling because of the large damage dealing mobs a dagger sin or a scythe sin isn't the way to go here.

vader · Jul 10, 2010, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Bring Panic. Game over.

Hyaon · Jul 10, 2010, 01:38 PM // 13:38

done it h/h with defy warrior, whirlwind and splinter weapon with sos rit, healers boon monk and olias discord mm was good fun!

look if people have done it! then it is possible! for gods sake stop complaining like the people did which got thunders keep nerfed and turned into a bloody bore!